Carlos Santana has been a student of spirituality for most, if not all, of his adult life. So has his partner, accomplished drummer Cindy Blackman Santana. The legendary Latin-rock guitarist, who came to the U.S. from Mexico as a teenager in the mid-1960s, has also been very active in philanthropy and social justice. His nonprofit Milagro (Miracle) Foundation, begun in 1998, benefits children around the world. Blackman Santana’s cover of “Imagine” from her 2020 album Give the Drummer Some benefits world hunger exacerbated by COVID-19.

With each recording and each concert, the couple hold the intention for their music to inspire others to reclaim their own divine light—and then to share that light with the world. They recently discussed the intersection of their music and their spiritual lives with Unity Magazine editor Katy Koontz.

Katy Koontz: Congratulations, Cindy, on your latest album, which includes your version of “Imagine.” John Lennon wrote that song in 1971 as a vision, maybe even a plea, but you’ve made it a celebration.

Did you choose that song specifically for these challenging times?

Cindy Blackman Santana: I chose it because I’ve always loved the message, from when I first heard it as a child. It was completely synchronistic that I released the song at this time, with all that’s happening. We need that message now.

KK: That type of synchronicity is just one example of how you and Carlos have long used music to heal others. How did you each discover that you could channel your energy in that way?

Carlos Santana: It’s all done by grace, being in the place to receive the inner reality that we chose our parents, we chose this time to be on the planet, and we choose our lives.

And there’s just something that gives you confidence of spirit when you know you were created in the likeness of something so miraculous. That compels us to play music and to live for principles that can elevate and inspire people to be better humans.

Music’s Healing Frequency

Carlos Santana and Cindy Blackman Santana on choosing divinity, Church of the Holy Choice, healing power of music

CBS: Think about what this universe and all people in it are made of: frequency, vibration, electricity, magnetism, and light—photons. Those are the elements of the universe.

Music is a frequency—every tone, every note, and every space. That means every time I’m playing, I am sending out energy that turns into a physical thing. That frequency can touch somebody’s heart, so it can actually touch their body, as well. It’s going to make them feel better.

I like to focus on that when I play because then I know that I’m doing something that will help uplift the consciousness of humanity.

When we play, we have universal love in mind. We have universal consciousness in mind. We have the upliftment and the salvation of humanity in mind, and you know, you can’t help but put out good energy when the source of your energy is good too.

KK: From your description, it sounds like when you play, it’s a physical, emotional, and spiritual experience.

CBS: Absolutely. It’s all of the above. We’re physical, emotional, and spiritual beings, so we need to affect all of those elements in order to make lasting changes.

We have to understand that every time we think a thing, we’re creating something. So, if we’re thinking of a negativity, then there’s going to be a negativity that’s created, and when enough of those elements gather, it’s going to have a greater effect.

Transversely, the same will happen when you’re thinking of positive and loving thoughts. You will then be creating positive and loving things, so what we focus on is very, very important.

People make up stuff to take the value out of divine delight, so they become callous and cynical, and they think, That will never happen, or That’s just kumbaya, but I say, “No, actually, love is the only reality.”

Carlos Santana

KK: I would imagine when you perform, you’re lifting your own vibration as well as also lifting the audience’s, right?

CBS: Yes, absolutely. It’s healing to everyone, including ourselves, because we are also made up of the same elements. Every other person is just another you because we’re all one, so what you do to somebody else, you’re actually doing to yourself, as well.

Living in the Light: No More Victims

KK: Spirituality has been a big part of both of your lives for a long time. What spiritual path or resource has stood out the most for each of you?

CS: Gratitude and acknowledging the power of grace in everything inside you and around you, and knowing that we are made in the same likeness as God. That’s important because this planet is infected with fear and with the lie that everyone’s a victim because we were dismissed from the Garden of Eden for doing something bad.

But to that we say no way, because we believe with clarity of spirit and clarity of mind that we are ready to create miracles and blessings.

CBS: Seeing the divinity in myself and others is one of my main sources of inspiration. So when I look at other people, I have to look at them in the same way that I would look at myself and my loved ones. I’m going to treat them with the utmost care and the utmost love because that’s how we should treat each other, and that’s how I’d want people to treat me. We have to do unto others with that same kind of energy.

We’re all made up of photons, or light, and light is what God comes from, so we are all made up of sparks from the Divine.

Once everyone recognizes the divinity in everyone else, then we will have a utopia that is beyond our wildest imaginations—like a beautiful garden where all the plants are flourishing and everything’s well-tended. We need to really review and change how we see ourselves and how we see each other.

‘Imagine’ Fighting World Hunger

Streaming proceeds of the Carlos Santana and Cindy Blackman Santana cover of John Lennon’s song “Imagine” are being donated to fight global hunger. To participate, listen to the song via the SongAid collection on your preferred music platform. All of the proceeds go to the Rapid Response Fund at WhyHunger, a nonprofit organization cofounded in 1975 by the late singer/songwriter Harry Chapin and radio DJ Bill Ayres.

KK: That’s a powerful practice—one that needs to be a constant process.

CBS: Yes. It’s something you have to keep at the forefront of your mind and live by, and it’s something we have to teach our children, because if we teach the next generation to do this, it will be part of their DNA. There won’t be other choices because we will have helped them weed those out of society.

We will still have free will, but we will only want to do things that are for the good of everyone. Once we’re able to raise a community of people who have that as their core thought process, then we’re going to see some beautiful changes in this world.

KK: What you’re describing sounds a lot like Carlos’s concept of the Church of the Holy Choice.

CS: Yes, exactly. This is the power of free will, and everyone has the choice. We can live in light or we can live as a victim. It’s more exciting to live in light instead of being predictably boring or being a victim because then everything’s a miracle and blessing. You can manifest a higher frequency of love with compassion.

I don’t like being around people who are bent and twisted and constantly trying to convince me that they’re victims. I can tell by the way they look and the way they walk that some people love being victims. But for me, that’s boring, so that means my light will be boring to them, and their darkness is going to be boring to me.

My choice is being the highest and the deepest I can be and to present it at God’s speed. Cindy and I happen to play drums, and we happen to play guitar, but when you strip all of that away, we are benefactors and lightworkers, and we came to this planet to inspire people to wake up to their own illumination.

This is a time to reset, a time to refocus, a time to really understand that we can never, ever achieve something different by doing things in the exact same way that we did before. We can only change things if we change.

Cindy Blackman Santana

KK: Sounds like a utopia. I wish it could happen soon.

CS: This landed on me this morning, that we have to conduct ourselves like citizens of heaven here on earth. People make up stuff to take the value out of divine delight, so they become callous and cynical, and they think, That will never happen, or That’s just kumbaya, but I say, “No, actually, love is the only reality.” To me, fake illusions are boring, predictable, and unloving.

The Divinity in Each of Us: On Change and Conquering Fear

CBS: When we live channeling God’s energy, then things can happen in the blink of an eye, at God’s speed. When the majority of us realize this change and understand what to do, then we can tip the scales for those who don’t realize it yet and lift them up.

I truly believe with all my heart that this can happen in a second, or even less. It just depends on whether or not we, as a society, are willing to accept this truth. But recognizing the divinity in yourself and recognizing and appreciating the divinity in everyone else will certainly help quell a lot of the fear that people have of the unknown.

KK: I think we’re getting closer at least—maybe this is just the dark before the dawn.

CBS: I think you’re right. This is a time to reset, a time to refocus, a time to really understand that we can never, ever achieve something different by doing things in the exact same way that we did before. We can only change things if we change. So I’m with you a thousand percent.

John McLaughlin recently asked Carlos and me to play on a song called “Quarantine Blues.” He also asked me to sing and to write lyrics.

At first, I had my reservations about writing the lyrics because “Quarantine Blues” sounded like it would be a downer, and then I thought, No, I’m going to make it about what I’m feeling now and what I want to see now. So that’s what I did, and John loved it.

So “Quarantine Blues” is all about changing your mindset, resetting your brain, and thinking about making change—and doing it right now when we have this opportunity to really do it. To me, this feels like a golden age, and if we all take advantage of it, then it will be.

You know, whether you’re a billionaire or you don’t know where your next dime is coming from, in God’s eyes, we are all made of light. We’re all given free will by the Creator, so we can make choices about what we want.

Then if we start visualizing how what we want is going to become a reality, we can ask the universe to show us how to get it done.

Once you do that with earnest and with honesty and love and with the right intentions, you’ll start getting messages. And then you can start putting those pieces of the puzzle together.

So tell your truth by living it, by becoming everything that you want to see happen in the world. That’s how it works.

This article appeared in Unity Magazine®.

About the Author

Katy Koontz is the editor in chief of Unity Magazine.


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